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		<title>Comment on French Court Denies Recognition to American Surrogacy Judgement by Luis Arechederra</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/french-court-denies-recognition-to-american-surrogacy-judgement/comment-page-1/#comment-205468</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Arechederra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations. In Spain the things are worse. The Dirección General of Registros (Civil and Ownership) and the Notariado in its Resolution of Febrery 19, 2009 ordered to the Registro Civil at the Consulado of Spain in Los Angeles (California) entry the inscription of birth of two childs that two spanish married men obteined by surrogacy gestatión (ban in Spain. Articulo 10.1 Ley 14/2006, of May 26) being the parents the two married men and keep silent about the woman who was the gestate mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations. In Spain the things are worse. The Dirección General of Registros (Civil and Ownership) and the Notariado in its Resolution of Febrery 19, 2009 ordered to the Registro Civil at the Consulado of Spain in Los Angeles (California) entry the inscription of birth of two childs that two spanish married men obteined by surrogacy gestatión (ban in Spain. Articulo 10.1 Ley 14/2006, of May 26) being the parents the two married men and keep silent about the woman who was the gestate mother.</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Court Denies Recognition to American Surrogacy Judgement by Gilles Cuniberti</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/french-court-denies-recognition-to-american-surrogacy-judgement/comment-page-1/#comment-204990</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Cuniberti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decision was published at the Semaine Juridique Edition Générale of 22 June 2009. It should be available on Lexis-Nexis, but it seems that they have stopped posting this journal this month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decision was published at the Semaine Juridique Edition Générale of 22 June 2009. It should be available on Lexis-Nexis, but it seems that they have stopped posting this journal this month.</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Court Denies Recognition to American Surrogacy Judgement by Kees Saarloos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kees Saarloos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post! Is there a way to get the actual decision? Is it published already?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post! Is there a way to get the actual decision? Is it published already?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Court Denies Recognition to American Surrogacy Judgement by Gilles Cuniberti</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/french-court-denies-recognition-to-american-surrogacy-judgement/comment-page-1/#comment-204807</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Cuniberti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point you are making about vested rights is interesting. Now, of course, it depends on how the forum takes them into account, especially for the purpose of public policy. In France, the traditional solution is indeed that public policy is weaker when the connections with the forum are fewer. The problem is that, in family matters, it is enough that the parties are either resident in France, or French nationals, to be considered as &quot;protected&quot; by French public policy. So I am not sure your strategy would work, since the couple would remain French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point you are making about vested rights is interesting. Now, of course, it depends on how the forum takes them into account, especially for the purpose of public policy. In France, the traditional solution is indeed that public policy is weaker when the connections with the forum are fewer. The problem is that, in family matters, it is enough that the parties are either resident in France, or French nationals, to be considered as &#8220;protected&#8221; by French public policy. So I am not sure your strategy would work, since the couple would remain French.</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Court Denies Recognition to American Surrogacy Judgement by Andrew Grossman</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/french-court-denies-recognition-to-american-surrogacy-judgement/comment-page-1/#comment-204800</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite an interesting outcome, although not entirely surprising to those of us who have studied law in a civil-law system. (It&#039;s often said, rightly or wrongly, that public policy is &quot;dead&quot; in the Common Law.) The child, an American citizen and perhaps not now a French citizen (depending on the status of the putative father and the rights of an _enfant naturel_ under current French law), may have a conflict of status. (One remembers that before the ECHR acted, a person who had undergone a sex change operation and who happened to have two European nationalities could be female in one country and male in the other.)

I always suggest to those considering international adoption or surrogacy and faced with doubtful status questions to acquire a domicile of choice, or at least an habitual residence, in the country of adoption long enough for the child to acquire vested rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite an interesting outcome, although not entirely surprising to those of us who have studied law in a civil-law system. (It&#8217;s often said, rightly or wrongly, that public policy is &#8220;dead&#8221; in the Common Law.) The child, an American citizen and perhaps not now a French citizen (depending on the status of the putative father and the rights of an _enfant naturel_ under current French law), may have a conflict of status. (One remembers that before the ECHR acted, a person who had undergone a sex change operation and who happened to have two European nationalities could be female in one country and male in the other.)</p>
<p>I always suggest to those considering international adoption or surrogacy and faced with doubtful status questions to acquire a domicile of choice, or at least an habitual residence, in the country of adoption long enough for the child to acquire vested rights.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essay Competition by Denis Morozov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Morozov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have there been an announcement of results of competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have there been an announcement of results of competition?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Editorial: Hay on Recognition of a Recognition Judgment under Brussels I? by Andrew Grossman</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2008/guest-editorial-hay-on-recognition-of-a-recognition-judgment-under-brussels-i/comment-page-1/#comment-204149</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reciprocal of this question has now become relevant due to the ECJ decision in Apostolides v. Orams, discussed in a report on this Web site at http://bit.ly/2VoR0

Given the infirmities of the Orams decision it has been asked whether a Republic of Cyprus judgment (founded in trespass, etc.) against an investor or resident of Northern Cyprus might be enforced, say, in a U.S. state under the Uniform Foreign Country Money-Judgment Recognition Act or in Canada under the Canada and United Kingdom Reciprocal Recognition and Enforcement of Judgments Act. R.S., c. 52, s. 1. 

The failure of Vassilios Skouris to recuse himself spontaneously in the ECJ (he was not asked to do so) has reminded some of another, purely British, fiasco: &quot;The Plumber&quot; (Paul Davidson) case http://bit.ly/tySBf . The original hearing in that case collapsed following ex parte contact between one of the administrative-law judges and the the head of the FSA&#039;s Regulatory Decisions Committee while the latter while walking his dog early one morning after the hearing had begun. Skouris made an unexplained visit to Nicosia.

Also, the ruling on (non-)re-opening of the default judgment in the Orams case by the original Cyprus court was at least harsh, if not rising to due process levels.

Another question is whether this apparently private-law case is not really a public-law matter, with the parties as proxies for the respective governments of the South and the North. 

I understand that the European Commission submission by F. Hoffmeister and A.?M. Rouchaud (mentioned at para. 40 of the judgment) addressed not only the Accession Treaty protocol point but also the effect enforcement is likely to have on progress towards reconciliation and political solution. A month before the judgment was issued Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat had expressed hope for a political solution by April 2010 (  http://bit.ly/j1RcY , Reuters). 

Lastly, I am reminded of something I saw often enough as a supporting diplomat at treaty negotiations: the occasional use of vague and ambiguous terminology to hide disagreement as to meaning, and to leave precision to subsequent negotiation or determination by the courts or competent authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reciprocal of this question has now become relevant due to the ECJ decision in Apostolides v. Orams, discussed in a report on this Web site at <a href="http://bit.ly/2VoR0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2VoR0</a></p>
<p>Given the infirmities of the Orams decision it has been asked whether a Republic of Cyprus judgment (founded in trespass, etc.) against an investor or resident of Northern Cyprus might be enforced, say, in a U.S. state under the Uniform Foreign Country Money-Judgment Recognition Act or in Canada under the Canada and United Kingdom Reciprocal Recognition and Enforcement of Judgments Act. R.S., c. 52, s. 1. </p>
<p>The failure of Vassilios Skouris to recuse himself spontaneously in the ECJ (he was not asked to do so) has reminded some of another, purely British, fiasco: &#8220;The Plumber&#8221; (Paul Davidson) case <a href="http://bit.ly/tySBf" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/tySBf</a> . The original hearing in that case collapsed following ex parte contact between one of the administrative-law judges and the the head of the FSA&#8217;s Regulatory Decisions Committee while the latter while walking his dog early one morning after the hearing had begun. Skouris made an unexplained visit to Nicosia.</p>
<p>Also, the ruling on (non-)re-opening of the default judgment in the Orams case by the original Cyprus court was at least harsh, if not rising to due process levels.</p>
<p>Another question is whether this apparently private-law case is not really a public-law matter, with the parties as proxies for the respective governments of the South and the North. </p>
<p>I understand that the European Commission submission by F. Hoffmeister and A.?M. Rouchaud (mentioned at para. 40 of the judgment) addressed not only the Accession Treaty protocol point but also the effect enforcement is likely to have on progress towards reconciliation and political solution. A month before the judgment was issued Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat had expressed hope for a political solution by April 2010 (  <a href="http://bit.ly/j1RcY" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/j1RcY</a> , Reuters). </p>
<p>Lastly, I am reminded of something I saw often enough as a supporting diplomat at treaty negotiations: the occasional use of vague and ambiguous terminology to hide disagreement as to meaning, and to leave precision to subsequent negotiation or determination by the courts or competent authority.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ECJ Judgement on Deko-Marty Belgium, Case C-330/07 by Lei</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/ecj-judgement-on-deko-marty-belgium-case-c-33007/comment-page-1/#comment-204105</link>
		<dc:creator>Lei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid that there is a small mistake about the case number in the title. The number of the case should be c-339/07 not c-330/07.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid that there is a small mistake about the case number in the title. The number of the case should be c-339/07 not c-330/07.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commission&#8217;s Report and Green Paper on Brussels I Regulation by Jana</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/commissions-report-and-green-paper-on-brussels-i-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-202604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ibanet.org/LPD/Dispute_Resolution_Section/Arbitration/Projects.aspx#brussels</description>
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		<title>Comment on Commission&#8217;s Report and Green Paper on Brussels I Regulation by Ana Gerdau de Borja</title>
		<link>http://conflictoflaws.net/2009/commissions-report-and-green-paper-on-brussels-i-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-202430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ana Gerdau de Borja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would perhaps anyone know where I could get hold of the position papers recently issued by the IBA and by the French Committee on Arbitration concerning the Green Paper? Thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would perhaps anyone know where I could get hold of the position papers recently issued by the IBA and by the French Committee on Arbitration concerning the Green Paper? Thank you very much.</p>
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